DejaVue #E061 - Was Nuxt just sold?! (with Daniel Roe and Sébastien Chopin)

Welcome to DejaVue. It's your favorite Vue podcast and also your favorite Nuxt podcast, which is very relevant for today. Exactly. We are here with not one or two three people from the core team, which includes the head of the Nuxt framework and the CEO of Nuxt Labs. Hey, Daniel. Hey, Sebastien. How are you doing? Hello. It's nice to see you. It's a pleasure to be here. Hello. I'm also very happy to be here. Yeah. We're here for a big announcement. It is the July 8 recording date. Just not even three hours ago, the official announcement drops about the future of Nuxt.

Maybe, Sebastien, you can tell us a bit, probably the people already know, if not, then you haven't seen the whole social media post or nuxtlabs.com. What happened? What is going on? What happened is we had discussion with Guillermo about what we were doing at NuxtLabs, what they were doing at Vercel, and the fact that how they found open source framework and what we've been building at NuxtLabs in helping the development of the Nuxt open source ecosystem, as well as trying to offer premium solutions around Nuxt. And we find an opportunity to join forces through Vercel to accelerate these developments and have the opportunity to put our full focus in open source. And I have to say, I'm quite happy to be back on coding and be able to work full time on open source again. So this was a great opportunity we've been discussing for many months about what this would imply. And I think Daniel would also be more than happy to explain on the Nuxt part.

Yeah, I'm very excited by this new adventure. I am honestly so excited that Sebastien is going to be coding some more. I do think, Sebastien, your presence has been incredibly valuable even without as much code contribution because I think Sebastien has got an incredible sense for I feel a bit awkward saying this to you here. Normally I said this, you're not here, Sebastien. So it seems strange. But anyway, Sebastien is very good at thinking about what's intuitive and what's a good API.

So even when we have, like even when a PR comes from someone else totally different, probably we've talked about it in a team meeting and probably Sebastien has said, actually, I think it was probably be this or that doesn't feel right. This would be better. So it's not like your presence isn't felt a lot now, but it will be amazing to have you coding some stuff. And I'm particularly looking forward to some of the things like Nuxt Hub being agnostic. It's something I've been wanting for so long.

Ever since you initially announced that I would mean, Nuxt Hub is incredible. Like, it's great, great interface, a great set of functionality, but I'm really proud of for me to be agnostic of provider because I think probably almost everything we've built at Nuxt is agnostic. It's about choice. It's about people being able to pick what they want to, who they want to use. And so it was always a little bit of a niggle for me that this thing from Sebastien, from the NuxtLabs team was not agnostic. Yes. Me too Sebastien will tell you how many times I pestered him.

Please, please. 52 times, but it's I don't count. Not anymore. We care about that. Right? We restart at zero now that Vercel acquired NuxtLabs And maybe that's also a good point to to explain the situation once again. And I think we're not getting tired of repeating that: Vercel didn't acquire Nuxt like the framework or like now all the framework team work at Vercel. It's about Nuxt Labs.

So who does it actually impact? I would say at first it impacts the users of the products we have, but in the good sense. What we plan on the Nuxt Hub parts that Daniel already mentioned is to make Nuxt Hub agnostic. So first is to be able to support other providers than Cloudflare. So we're aiming to have something more generic. So you can connect a Postgres database, you can connect a Redis for KV and the others services.

That would be the first stage for the module. And then we have the hosted version that we plan to sunset at the end of the year. Once we're able to provide what we call it right now a Admin, where you will have the same interface you have in the Nuxt Hub platform right into your project. So you'll be able to manage your full stack resources right into your own website on web app and whatever the deployment platform you choose.