DejaVue #E059 - Double Trouble: The Nuxt Surprise (with Daniel Roe)

Michael Thiessen: Welcome to DejaVue. Alexander Lichter: It's your favorite Vue podcast out there. And as usual, this episode, I'm with my lovely co host, Michael Thiessen. Michael, how are you doing? Michael Thiessen: I'm doing great. And I have no idea what's gonna happen this episode, So that's going to be lots of fun. Daniel Roe here is our surprise guest. So, yeah, looking forward to seeing what's going to come in the next bit. Daniel Roe: Hi, it's nice to be How much of a surprise was it to find me on the podcast? I feel like there would be other guests

that were more surprising. Alexander Lichter: Like who? Daniel Roe: I feel if Joe Rogan appeared, there would be more Michael Thiessen: I would be shocked in many ways. Of all, did you get in contact with him? And Alexander Lichter: but why? Daniel Roe: There would be a lot of you would be asking a lot of questions. Let's be honest. Alexander Lichter: Okay. There there could have been a more surprising guest, but would there be more surprising guests in the Vue ecosystem? Possibly. Maybe. But topic wise, I think I mean, it depends when people watch or, like, listen to this. It could be that they already like, okay. Yeah. It's all

clear. But right now so from you, the listener, in the past, well, some of us have no idea what will happen in the future as we don't have a Daniel Roe: Most of us have no idea what will happen in the future. True. Alexander Lichter: Don't have a crystal ball that tells us. But we're here for for one big topic actually, Daniel. Do you wanna give it away? Daniel Roe: Yes. We're talking about the release plans for Nuxt four and the release plans for Nuxt five.

Michael Thiessen: Oh. Woah. Nuxt five. Daniel Roe: If you want to see someone's mind I don't know, Michael, we should have a reaction video. Michael should be like, This is what I'm thinking at this moment in time. Have you gone mad? Michael Thiessen: Well, I suspected that there that it might be Nuxt four related because I saw some, you know, some tweets and I was like, what is going on around MadVue? And

then I I look to see what's the topic of Daniel's talk here? Oh, beyond Nuxt four. That's confusing because Nuxt four isn't even the present yet. So how can we talk about the the future? And I was also confused because I had thought that there were some things around Nitro blocking the Nuxt four release, and so I hadn't seen any movement there. So I was like, oh, I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

And so I suspected that it might be around this, but, I still have questions. Alexander Lichter: Which questions? Bring them on. Michael Thiessen: Well, what are the release plans? Daniel Roe: That's a good start. Very specific. He's not asked anything about Nuxt five. I hinted at NUXT five, and Michael is just not picking up the bait. It's like, no. Michael Thiessen: I want to go chronologically. Daniel Roe: There's been enough hype. There's been enough hype.

I want dates. Alexander Lichter: Don't give me two major versions. Just give me one release date. Yes. Daniel Roe: Exactly. So basically the idea is we have been over a year delayed from the original planned release date of Nuxt four. And that release date was based on a Nitro release date. So we planned to bundle the breaking changes for Nuxt as well as the breaking changes from Nitro into one version and release that. And for lots of good reasons, I should say that Alex and I and others on the Nuxt team are also on the Nitro team.

So if we're looking at the causes for the delay, obviously we are involved in that. So for various good reasons, Nitro has been delayed, but always imminent at every step. So we've talked about it before and we've always decided let's wait for Nitro make one release. But I think it became apparent more and more that actually people have been trying out breaking changes for Nuxt with compatibility version four. People are shipping their apps with compatibility version four.