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Guillermo Rauch
"Most cool things happen when you combine models, combine ideas, market it well, focus it well, create easy interfaces."
"Always delete, delete, delete, delete. There should be as few buttons, links, etc. as possible on any given product."
"I never think it's the fault of the user. It's the product, it's the design, it's the idea."
"You have to always be rethinking your assumptions, trying to observe how people use your products in the real world."
"What comes out of me is good ideas. What started out was probably a ton of ideas, bad, good, medium, whatever. And then there's a filter that happens."
I sat down with Guermo, the founder of Verscell, which is a $9 billion company. In this conversation, he dropped three powerful startup ideas that really got me to stop and think. We also went through v0, his vibe coding product, to tell us how to make money from it, how to build software from it, and how to use it to the best of its capabilities. I always find when you sit down with the founder of these vibe coding tools, they really, really give you the sauce around how to fine-tune it so you get the most out of it. I'm not
sponsored by Vercel. I have no relationship with them. Just thought it would be cool to give you some ideas, see how their platform works. I hope you find it interesting. At the end of the episode, I bought a domain that I'm giving away to one of you. I think it's an incredible domain that all you got to do if you want it, like and comment and I'm going to pick one person, one person randomly to give it away. Um, I can't wait to see what you build. Enjoy the episode. [Music]
We got GMO on the pod from Vercel. GMO, by the end of this episode, what are people going to learn? Well, hopefully they're going to learn a little bit about my system, how I think, how I use our own tools, how I prototype, how I come up with ideas. I have some ideas that I think are good, maybe most are bad, but some might be gems for some of the listeners. Yeah, I like to uh work
in public a lot at we do a ton with open source. Maybe I'll share some of the things that we've been open sourcing that can be great starting points for people that are entrepreneurial. And yeah, cool. And I just asked for one little commitment from you. You know, on this on this podcast, we talk about sauce. You know, giving the sauce to the people so that they can, you know, can you commit to giving the sauce? All sauce. All sauce. I'm all sauce. All sauce. No breaks. Yeah. Okay, let's do it.
Let's go. Let's Let's Let's rip. All right. So, Greg, how familiar are you with v0? I'm pretty familiar. Okay. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I I think I've seen some of your tweets. Uh so what you're looking at here, in case you're not familiar, is uh the Vercel workspace for v0. So I'm literally showing you like all this awesome, right? Like our our own uh workspace, how we use v0, but you're looking at the favorites, which are mine. Obviously, I created a couple things that I wanted to show you all. So, and by the way, funny little behind
thes scenes thing. This is how I pitch product. We have a lot of huge enterprises using v0. Yesterday I met with one of the world's largest companies. Um they came to the office and I basically did a version of this. So it's also a little bit of advice for for people watching like how do you sell like do you do decks? Like I try to show product as much as I can. So I'll walk you through a few things that I've created. So one that's one use case of v0 that's really interesting is free
form data visualization. So it's really hard sometimes to explain complex technical concepts that have to do with different things of the Vercel infrastructure etc to customers. So I use v 0ero a lot to basically give some prompt ideas and then come up with like unique visualizations. So like what you're looking at here is that something that I think could have taken me quite
quite a long time to create with like slides or whatever and and and the AI walked me through how to represent this you know how our fluid compute system works and uh create something that I can hand off to other teams. I can hand off to customers can hand off you know I can further solidify my understanding of technical concepts. I actually use v0 for learning a lot. Uh so that's a fun one. I'm actually really proud of this one that you're going to look at now.