Interview with Guillermo Rauch at Vuejs Global (Amsterdam)

your talk and this q a that was very related to yeah next and essentially the topic of of uh your talk uh it was indeed very refreshing to see uh uh let's say that what what happens on the other side of the aisle right and how is no correlation um you said something really interesting there about like learning from everybody and i wanted to jump in real quick to ask you a couple of questions that are not necessarily entirely related next but in general about um yeah how you see development and this this concept that

you just mentioned about developer experience being very important for you um so the world is very different now from all the way down to you writing your dev thoughts uh blog back in your movie this time wow that's that's that is i use a bunch of memes in my talk that's a word i haven't heard in a long time dev thoughts that's a name i haven't heard in a long time so well but yeah that was my blog dev thought that's how it all started right and uh it seems then well there's

an there has been a cambric explosion of uh developer tooling we live in a very uh privileged world in a sense because we have a lot of developers are at our disposal however uh there's sometimes it's a big difficulty for internal teams to make the case for developing internal tools so what are some tips that you maybe want could like could share with some of these passionate developers that want to do more for their teams and sometimes it's difficult for them to

make the case with you know senior management like oh we want to build this little tool and it's now focusing yeah so yeah what's in your mind there that's that's uh a lot of great contests and a great question so thank you so a lot has changed about the world in so far the cambric explosion has been in the open source ecosystem right so i was talking the other day to in on an open source panel and one of the people that even experienced open source way before me

you know when i was like five years old i was sharing this insight that managers used to reject the premise of open source like that was like oh is that a toy is that uh are you gonna do you want to ruin our business are you a hobbyist yeah exactly this is like negative sentiment about open source and that was coming from the management layer yeah that was coming from the suits you know and the pinstripes um and the world has literally flipped upside down

nowadays imagine arguing to a manager and again like i i don't want to uh misrepresent the entire world and i'm sure that that even today exists like people are skeptical open source but when you're thinking about like modern development a lot of managers will say well let's go with the open source tool i don't want login i want to be able to read the code i want to be able to audit it for security reasons if our company gets acquired you know we know that we can take next js

and deploy it in acquires infrastructure if needed like there's all these uh amazing advantages on a business level for open source uh recruiting another one so there's all these advantages so uh one thing i mentioned in my talk is like sticking to your into your core beliefs and sticking to the axioms and i think all the people that deep down thought this is the future of open this is the future open source the future it has all these amazing benefits and they were able to overcome the

skepticism right yeah those are the people that then ended up winning a lot for their careers for their tech choices for better sleep better sleep fall nights not debugging proprietary software and things like that so you can make the same case today that if a team wants to contribute to open source if a team wants to extend open source projects with custom tooling maybe they'll face some skepticism