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"Use v0 to prompt something and show your kids what it's like to go from idea to a working website, your own little space on the internet."
"You're now constantly thinking adversarially. There's some clever whole range of clever teenager all the way to like nation state actor that we have to protect against."
"What is AI changing about the world? I mean, it's changing everything. But I do think the attention window has shifted more towards the LLM than the programming language."
"There was something about video games that they were harder, they were durable, they didn't have all this in-app AB test driven monetization."
"If my kids can find those kinds of healthy feedback loops, I love screens for them."
It is quite easy to make money in Silicon Valley. You're just going to naturally see that people around you are building the future. Forget about like OpenAI, whatever. There's probably more AI unicorns being born today. This week on the show, we have GMO Roush, the visionary founder behind Versell, the platform fueling the next generation of AI powered lightning fast web apps. My idea of building software is that you type something in and you press deploy and it's live instantly. like literally no build time, no CI/CD pipelines. It's instant. If you've used the web lately, chances
are you've touched his work from websites like Nike, Adobe, and OpenAI. Elon just talked about this, I think a couple days ago. The CEO needs to be an engineer. The CEO needs to be a developer. The CEO needs to understand the problem space very, very deeply. This truly is the world that AI should unlock in the future is that we all become more full stack. What is your level of AI proficiency? He scaled from coding in his bedroom in Argentina to building one of the fastest growing cloud companies on the planet. You have to chase your interests. You have to pursue your interests. For me,
the obsession was figure out how things work. My dad was like, can you see how far you can push this thing? Can you hack around and change the operating system? So, we always had a hacker mindset around having a computer at home. What is a modern version of that that I can give my kids? So, what about screen time of the kids then? Like, what do you I would meet a lot of like tech CEOs and families and whatever and like they all had pretty strict technology limits and I was like that's that's kind of weird guys. I'm here because I had no technology limits. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly how it feels.
Like imagine my parents had out of screen time for me. I'm Enrique Dubrass and welcome to HD and HD. This episode is brought to you by Brex, a brand I'm proud to have co-founded and one that's shaped by the same journey many of you are on. Brex has everything startups and fast growing companies need to make every dollar count. From modern corporate cards, banking and treasury to accounting, automation, travel, and expenses. Over 25,000 companies
including Door Dash, Scale AI, and Anthropic spend smarter using Brex. Man, thank you so much for coming and thanks for for for for being here. I really appreciate you taking the time. Yeah, excited for this. So, I was, you know, remembering the first time we met, you know, one of our common investors. I think it was co. Yeah, I think it was co. One of our common investors introduced us and said, "Enrique, like you should meet these guys. These are building like amazing dev tools and they're Argentina." And as soon as they said Argentina, I'm like, "Do I really want to meet this guy?" You know, like I don't know. Brazil Argentine rivalry.
Yeah, exactly. The Brazil Argentina rivalry. Um, even though I'm in a in a board of an Argentinian company. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but that Argentinian company li their biggest market is Brazil, right? Their biggest market is in Brazil, but I think they do really well in Argentina, you know, really well. Yeah, of course. And uh I think for Argentina entrepreneurs is like how the hell did that even happen? Like so ahead of their time. Um early to the internet, so a huge inspiration for for all of us. Totally. Totally. And I feel there's like so many other amazing entrepreneurs
coming out of Argentina, right? Like uh you know, I think Wes was Argentinian, right? And then um you know, it's a big one. Azero, that's right. That's right. uh the Walla founder too like you know there's a lot of great a lot of movement and I think the next decade the the best is yet to come. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And obviously Vercel, right? Like the crown jewel of it. But yeah, man. Like so first maybe tell me a little bit like you're born there. Would you grew up there? You grew up here in the US? Like how is your your life? Yeah, fun story. I grew up in Argentina
until I was at the last year of high school. And so I was like I was 18. Buenosiritis. Yeah. Uh first in the outskirts of Buenosirus in a town called Lenus and then moved to the city to go to high school. American high school. Normal high school. Normal. uh not normal in the sense of so normal normal by the standards of like uh you know it's another high school in in in the city in Spanish speaking everything but it had a one really cool wrinkle which is they called it an
