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what's up welcome back this is Adam stovak editor and chief here at change log and you are listening to the change log we feature the hackers the leaders and the innovators in the world of software today CEO of verel GMA Rouch and JS party panelist emo Hussein joined Jared Santo to discuss the state- of the web platform why it's so important and unique where it stands today what modern web dev looks like and where the whole thing is heading in 2021 and
[Music] Beyond I'm joined today by two friends kerma Rouch of versel and AML Hussein of JS party is the way I'll introduce you uh regular on JS party you may know her voice if you are a listener to that welcome to the show Friends hi you may call me lady mL of Js party okay lady
good sir and G thanks for joining us on the change log thanks for having me we are excited today to talk about the web a beloved platform by all three of us here on this call and we're going to talk about where the web has been why it's important and maybe even cast forward and talk about where we think it is going G Shero your uh reputation in my mind is a person who's always on the edge of what is happening today and tomorrow uh longtime listeners of the show may recall you were on the change log back four years ago now doesn't seem
like it was that long ago but time flies does not talking about hyper talking about now hyper term is actually called at the time now and zit which I introduced you as CEO of versel Zite versell same company Rebrand rename versel is what it's called now that was a long time ago you're also more recently on JS party talking to Divia and myself about nextjs and what's going on there but welcome back to the change log I guess it's been been a long time yeah it's been and uh the web has