Containers Panel - Cian O’Maiden; Ross Kulinski; Yunong Xiao; Azat Mardan; Guillermo Rauch

welcome to the container panel um uh my name is keon omadine um ceo in uniform and i will be asking all these nice gentlemen as many difficult questions as they possibly can come up with in the next 40 minutes or so um if if you want to just start off by way of introduction and just introduce yourselves hello so my name is azad martin i'm a technology fellow at capital one capital

one it's one of the top u.s banks so i work with the financial in the financial industry so we have some regulations that we have to adhere to which makes the job interesting my name is guillermo rauch and i'm the ceo of zeit we make cloud deployment really easy to do just one command now my name is ross kukulinsky i'm a product manager at node source and i've been running containers in node for multiple

years now so loving it hey everyone my name is yunnan xiao i'm a platform architect on netflix i've been working on node for many years and also containers even before i knew it on using zones and solaris way back in the day cool um so about three years ago i was um i was talking to a uh vc tech friend in san francisco uh

and at the time people were like you know there must be like a heroku for node.js someone's going to build this and at the time uh talking to that vc like uh i think a lot of the early past companies were really having problems right they were they were trying to scale um i think the kind of uh the problem was uh there was a lot of churn of customers and stuff so uh you know typically like agencies would use a pass right uh to build like a website for a big like brand or

something like that uh you know reasonable med usage but but not not going to go hockey stick and you know make a lot of money um and then there were a few outliers like uh you know some of the early online deal companies ended up on pass and and scaled and you know past companies make a lot of money and stuff but but the the ultimate problem is that you know once you get to a particular size you're going to hire your own ops people and you're going to like go you know uh onto aws yourself or or start

you know building your own stuff so um the the the interesting thing though is like you know uh since since containers really started to take off uh all of a sudden paz is like being built by everybody it's it's back again like and um like i guess like what is like driving all the new paths uh developments that are happening out there um i mean i can talk about our paths that

we're building for us we're building a path for a data access layer on node and containers and the main motivation for making it a path for our perspective is the primary customers for us are our client engineers so folks who are writing ui or front end code who are not familiar or have the experience or comfortable running a service in production but still have to be able to run a service in production at the same production quality which means having the right the greater reliability and availability as any other app on netflix

and so instead of hiring uh you know or seating each team with a bunch of devops engineers or systems engineers you can say we elected to build a pas model so that these ui engineers can concentrate on writing great front-end code and javascript apis for their backend but have a separate team and a platform that handles all the ins and outs of operations so you asked also why build a pass or why not reuse a pass because you