AI Giants Interview with Malte Ubl, CTO of Vercel

Okay. Okay. Hi there. Welcome to season two of AI Giants, a live podcast where we dive deep into the eye coding world with some of the most influential makers shaping the products we're using every day. I'm your host Sam George. Welcome to everyone watching on YouTube X and LinkedIn. AI Giants is now available

also as a podcast on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Make sure to follow via the link below. Today we're super happy to uh introduce Maltubel. Uh Maltub is the CTO of Versell. Before Verscell, Malt spent 11 years at Google where we rose from software engineer to principal engineer and engineering director. Outside of Google, he founded and curated JS Confu, one of the most influential JavaScript conferences in the world. At Verscell is now leading the push to make AI power development

default. Welcome, Malt. >> Thanks for having me. Super exciting >> reminder um you can post questions in the QA section if you're following this on our website or if you're commenting on YouTube X or LinkedIn we have folks kind of gathering questions for us so please engage at the last 15 minutes we'll get as many questions as we can um and we'll do and we'll do that so let's get started let's start with a very simple question is really at the

epicenter of AI with vzero and a number of key libraries What has been most surprising to you and how do you stay updated? >> Yeah, I I mean I think Versel has been going through the same transformation that we all have. I joined the company kind of coming from Google kind of knowing a little bit what was on the horizon with AI but it was before Chad GBT and so we had to go through that transformation altogether like everyone else. Um I feel that the company has gotten to a really good place with Vzero

being a tool that kind of UI forward very like makes a lot of sense for Versale to do this. I feel right and the same with AI SDK kind of having a framework in this space again like makes a lot of sense to me and and so I feel as a company we did the transformation decently well you know can always be better but that's that's that's the thing I mean how do I personally stay updated? I mean, I've been coding a lot lately, like um I am I'm I've been always, and this is not a new thing, I've been paranoid about losing touch um with like reality of just being a suit

and and so yeah, I've been I've been just writing code and and and you know, I've been having AI write code for me as well, obviously. >> Very cool. um you you are then one of the legends that are coming out and just kind of coding more and more and more and getting green bars in GitHub to produce more software with AI. Um so I want to talk about VZero. I actually have a story, a small story of a user really. I started using Vzero in November 2023. I

was checking even the logs of of me using the product and it really felt like magic. um I think as f as as as far as I see and and know was the first real tool to generate UI and so there's an argument to say that vis zero kickstart the prompt to product race um and so right now many devi coding assistants as helpers for tasks and boilerplate some obviously are building whole products and launching them but we're still seeing that ramp of adoption what is

your vision for vzero's capabilities and what needs to happen to get devs truly confident in AI generated code? >> Yeah, I mean for for Vzero specifically, I think the market is kind of differentiating a little bit and there's products for different folks and and different like experience levels and different roles in in the overall space. And obviously you you mentioned that story from like late 2023 where this did seem like magic. And uh I mean I