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Sahil Lavingia is the CEO and founder of Gumroad, where AI agents are already writing 41% of all code commits, and they’re targeting 80% by year-end. Sahil demonstrates how this approach allows him to transform what would typically be two-week projects into two-hour implementations—a 40x productivity increase. What you'll learn: 1. The exact AI workflow Sahil uses to build features 40x faster—from prototyping in v0 to implementation with Devin 2. How Gumroad incentivizes AI adoption across the organization with $33,000 bounties for engineers who outperform the CEO 3. How to use component libraries like shadcn/ui for effective AI development 4. How AI is shifting engineering roles toward architecture and tech debt removal while enabling designers and PMs to ship features directly 5. Why spending more time on UX iteration becomes possible (and necessary) when implementation costs drop dramatically 6. Which organizational functions will be transformed by AI next Brought to you by Enterpret — Customer SuperIntelligence Platform for Product and CX teams: http://enterpret.com/howIAI Vanta — Automate compliance and simplify security with Vanta: https://www.vanta.com/howiai Where to find Sahil Lavingia Gumroad: https://gumroad.com/ Website: https://sahillavingia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sahillavingia X: https://x.com/shl Where to find Claire Vo ChatPRD: https://www.chatprd.ai/ Website: https://clairevo.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairevo/ X: https://x.com/clairevo Timestamps (00:00) Sahil’s background (02:31) How soon will AI do most engineering? (04:08) Live demo: redesigning with v0, Devin and Cursor (09:30) Using the right tools (11:03) Prototyping and iteration with AI (19:45) Incentivizing AI adoption in teams (24:50) “Magical” date picker component development (31:47) AI’s impact on marketing, sales, and support (36:50) Deciding what to build when AI builds everything (40:02) Conclusion and final thoughts Referenced • Devin: https://devin.ai/ • Cursor: https://www.cursor.so/ • v0: https://v0.dev/ • Tobi Lütke’s tweet on how AI usage is now a baseline expectation at Shopify: https://x.com/tobi/status/1909231499448401946 • Flexile: https://app.flexile.com/ • shadcn: https://github.com/shadcn/ui • Gusto: https://gusto.com/ • GitHub: https://github.com/ • Figma: https://www.figma.com/ • Slack: https://slack.com/ • Vercel: https://vercel.com/ • Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email jordan@penname.co.
Can you do something that used to take two weeks in two hours and that's like a 40 times speed increase? So that's kind of like the number that I have in my head generally like what's the most optimistic case if you kind of remove all the bottlenecks. Something that would take 40 hours would take 1 hour. If you're suggesting to us that AI is going to raise the bar on what's possible to do, you are certainly setting the standard. The majority of human engineering will be removing tech debt such that AI engineers can actually ship features. It's also scary, I think, which is why I think so many people shy
away from this stuff. It's like there is this part of why change is uncomfortable is that change can kill you. There's like a fear of change. It's like job security, right? But at the end of the day, I think it's sort of also job [Music] insecurity. Hey everyone, welcome to How I AI, a podcast on how AI is transforming how we get things done. I'm Claire, product leader and AI obsessive here on a mission to help you build better with these new tools. Today I have an absolute powerhouse guest, Sahil
Levvenia, CEO and founder of Gumroad. If you don't know Gumroad, it's the platform that has helped creators sell over a billion dollars of products directly to their audiences. Sahil's been at the bleeding edge using AI to transform how companies build products and write code. Doing everything from open- sourcing the entire Gumroad repo to paying his employees thousands of dollars if they can write more AI powered code than he does. Today he's going to show us exactly how he does it. Let's dive in. This episode is brought
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t.com/howi ai. Hey, so I'm super excited to have you here. And before we dive into the demos, I wanted to call out something that you said a couple days ago, which is Devon, the AI engineering agent, who I also love, is writing 41% of your PRs right now, and you expect it to go to 80% by the end of the year. So, do you think that's the baseline that we should all be shooting for? Do you think you're way ahead of the curve? Where should we all be compared to that
benchmark that you just set? I feel like I tell the team constantly like we have a lead you know but the lead is getting shorter and shorter every every day every week there's a new model coming out so I I would say like by the end of next year I would suspect that like every engineering team at any company is you know using cursor and devon and vzero and all these tools to ship you know a multiple times faster and the question is is mostly like can organization adapt such that those people can do so right like the
bottlenecks are are show up in other places like Tony just tweeted about you know his simplify AI stuff today and I think that becomes the question is like how fast can you actually change your organization your culture especially when you're remote it's harder to make these big changes across the org to get people to learn new stuff uh to try and fail and cross share learnings you know all that all that kind of stuff okay so we're going to do it one at a time which is you're going to show us how you actually redesign or build something