#71 - Malte Ubl // CTO @ Vercel - alphalist.CTO Podcast - For CTOs and Technical Leaders

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alphalus.com to apply [Music] thank you [Music] welcome to the effortless podcast I am your host Toby and today um I'm talking to Malta Uber about the

future of front end Malta is a crazy German guy I would say like he he used to live in my hometown or close to my hometown Hamburg um built a conference in Germany the jsconf EU and I think he actually like learned coding or spent his first career years um in in the agency world then jump to California and worked as principal engineer at Google which is like a very rare thing so welcome Malta

um was that all correct thanks for having me hi so you're also the father of amp uh like that's what you what you worked at at Google um accelerated mobile pages and and now you work as a CTO for virtual um did I pronounce it correctly with this it's for sale very flexible okay so I would say like um this guy knows the front end World very well and all the trends and I'm

really happy to have him here so maybe you can tell me a bit more about your personal Journey like how did you get into Computing uh when did you start and why and and yeah how did that crazy career path uh work out um from from zinashkrata to to Google yeah okay you want me to stop very early so I I started the the way it's my career started when I was 14 years old I started in a in a tiny software company

as a as an after-school job and and what they needed and me to do was they made me do copying a floppy disk which they would send to their customers and literally like printing out of manuals and then kind of putting them into into distributable shape and so forth so that's what I was doing and then this company which was a very advanced technology company needed a website and nobody there knew how to do it and so I

kind of taught myself building websites and and kind of started my first programming job um back when I was maybe 16 or so maybe 15. I don't quite remember it might have even been before the Marquee tag I think I was excited when it was released it was just around that those years yeah 90 94 95 I'm aging myself okay okay great and how did that progress then yeah so I uh

I later switched to different after school job um this was as a you know advertising agency which is just opening their like web Department I was employee number two um worked through with that company through college and after um you know this was a place that you know it was big but like the web Department was maybe 25 people when I left I went from there to zinashrata which I can't pronounce but if I have my English uh accent turned on so people can mispronounce Purcell as well that's